Art De La Guerre

[Gareth Jones]

First of many questions I'm sure. Can't see the answer to this elewhere.
Played first game of ADLG last night. Abassids vs Nikephorian.
Abbassids had heavy spear with missile support. Am I right in thinking that the missile support never fire in the shooting phase, just add the bonus to the initial round of else?
Also, the Byzantines had mixed units of spear and bow. They were charged by cavalry ( I know, bad idea). Do they not get to shoot at the cav on the way in?
Finally, mixed units count as mediocre in melee, but not a unit with missile support?
Cheers
Gareth
_________________
Brand new to ADLG

[Commodore]

Hello, here are the answers to your questions and the reference :
1/support (p18 last para)
Foot trops with support capability = +1 if loosing hte 1st combat round if the unit is receiving a charge (except against Heavy armored units)
2/ Mixed troops (i.e byzantines p 18 same para)
On 1st turn of a melee they have the support capability
3/ mixed troops in melee (p 19 1st para)
count as ordinary if elite, mediocer if ordinary. The support capability is only applicable on 1st combat round
_________________
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead"
Cdr Farragut,Mobile 1864

[madaxeman]

...and they don't get to shoot "on the way in" - shooting only takes place in the shooting phase. By which time they are in combat!

(The "support" nechanic simulates the shooting if you want a justification/rationalisation )
_________________
www.madaxeman.com

[lionelrus]

In particular case of abbasids cv charging mixed bow:spear bysantines, ratios are
CV has 0 again heavy foot and Spears cancells is impact . He may has armor if heavy and be elite.
Mixed fight as heavy spear so gain impact again cv and has a base factor of +1. He's poor but gain support.
At following rounds the factors are only + 1 for mixed. No more impact and support but cv's armor applies.
_________________
"Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain.

[Janos Hunyadi]

[lionelrus]

But catafracts are better because support is not aviable again heavy armoured troops, and cata has base factor +1 again heavy foot.
You may use a screen of LI to ptotect agin shooting.
_________________
"Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain.

[Hazelbark]

I think a lot of players undervalue the use of LI but also LC to screen off shooting.

[AntiokosIII]

In some ways I agree with Dan, but...using a 4 point LI to screen a 7 point HI unit may not be cost effective. Also, ADLG's 'buttocks of death' rules can easily lead to a lot of dead LI if one is not careful to avoid getting LI into shooting range of their opponents. Rather than buying a 4 unit LI screen for my foot, I'd prefer 2 more units of HI as reserves, one of which could be upgraded to elite or armored with the 2 spare points.
_________________
Tabletop miniatures are the only completely honorable form of warfare ever invented.

[Gareth Jones]

Ah, got it now. Thanks for all of the responses. I'd assumed that Mixed Units and Missile Support were mutually exclusive. (Not the only error - the unit of Ghazis went dashing off on multiple charges on a unit of LH)
Interesting conundrum for the Abbassids - max out on cav, pin the Skoutatoi with light troops, and try to overwhelm the Kavallarioi with numbers?
Or hold back the kav, and hit the skoutatoi with a block of infantry?
Much depends on terrain...
Thanks again,
Gareth
_________________
Brand new to ADLG