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Martin Morgan
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MessagePosté le: Ven Mar 17, 2017 4:14 am    Sujet du message: Warwagons Répondre en citant
I have a couple of questions about how warwagons fight in melee.

Player A has a warwagon
Player B attacks the warwagon on its long side with an infantry unit and a cavalry unit. As it is player B's turn he elects to fight the combat with the infantry unit against the warwagon.

In player A's next turn he attacks the B's cavalry unit in the flank with another unit, dropping it one cohesion level. As it is player A's turn he elects to fight the (flanked) cavalry unit with the warwagon.

Q1. Is this the correct way to fight these combats?

In player B's next turn, assuming all units are still alive, he elects to fight the warwagon with the infantry unit.

Q2. What happens to player B's cavalry unit? Can it still negate the "overlap" of the warwagon on the infantry unit? Can player A attack this cavalry unit with his flanking unit?

Hoping for some clarity with warwagons.
Martin
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JohnTheBoring
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MessagePosté le: Ven Mar 17, 2017 9:27 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I think no-one fights the flanked cavalry if the warwagon fights the infantry.

However I don't think the cavalry turn to face the flank as it has an enemy to its' front.

I think the cavalry still counts as support as it is fighting to its' front. (I believe a unit only contacted to the flank, not front, would no longer support units beside it.)
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MessagePosté le: Sam Mar 18, 2017 9:31 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
WWg do not exerce ZoC, so I think that the Cav will conform to the flank attack and therefore can not support the infantry against the WWg
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MessagePosté le: Dim Mar 19, 2017 4:51 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Does ZOC matter if the cavalry is already in front edge contact?
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MessagePosté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 2:30 pm    Sujet du message: Re: Warwagons Répondre en citant
Martin Morgan a écrit:


Q1. Is this the correct way to fight these combats?


You are correct.


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In player B's next turn, assuming all units are still alive, he elects to fight the warwagon with the infantry unit.

Q2. What happens to player B's cavalry unit? Can it still negate the "overlap" of the warwagon on the infantry unit? Can player A attack this cavalry unit with his flanking unit?


Quite fun.
In player B's next turn.
The cavalry could choose to turn to face the flanking unit. This is an optional decision. If it turns obviously it does not negate the support.
If it does not turn, it does negate the support.
However, if the infantry unit is declared to be the "main unit" then the melee against the cavalry by the flanking unit will need to be resolved because neither is a main unit in contact with the enemy's front edge.
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MessagePosté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 4:36 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
It's alway funny to read explainations about situations who's never appears in real gaming.... Very Happy
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MessagePosté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 7:05 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
lionelrus

To be fair, there is in the past year a giant uptick in the number of games world wide compared to when the rules were French only. Lots more games equates to the improbable beginning to become statistically conceivable.

I do think the internet makes it easier for odd situations to get greater visibility.
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MessagePosté le: Sam Mar 25, 2017 10:44 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
lionelrus a écrit:
It's alway funny to read explainations about situations who's never appears in real gaming.... Very Happy


This almost happened in a game, except the warwagon was attacked by two infantry units (I just used a cav and inf unit to make it easier to understand). One of the units attacking the warwagon was in danger of being hit in the flank but the warwagon was destroyed before this could happen.
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