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stuuk
Gladiateur
Inscrit le: 21 Déc 2014 Messages: 32
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Posté le: Jeu Juin 30, 2016 7:57 pm Sujet du message: Stakes |
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Can multiple units which form a valid group deploy stakes as a single action together (using a group move) ? |
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Mick Hood
Javelinier
Inscrit le: 01 Juil 2016 Messages: 12
Localisation: Rotherham UK
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Posté le: Ven Juil 01, 2016 3:01 pm Sujet du message: |
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I was asked to ask this very same question this week. Anybody got an answer? |
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Commodore
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 23 Aoû 2012 Messages: 1238
Localisation: London
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Posté le: Ven Juil 01, 2016 7:14 pm Sujet du message: |
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You can use a group move to set up stakes in front of your bowmen. _________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead"
Cdr Farragut,Mobile 1864 |
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stuuk
Gladiateur
Inscrit le: 21 Déc 2014 Messages: 32
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 07, 2016 5:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thanks for the reply. Any chance of an 'official' reply from someone who's involved with the rules?
or failing that if others could confirm that this is indeed their understanding of the rule.
Thankyou! |
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fdunadan
Tribun
Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 984
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Posté le: Ven Juil 08, 2016 3:02 pm Sujet du message: |
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Deploying stakes count as a move:
may be performed using the general's point.
may be used on a group and even if some units in the group doesn't have stakes ( Bowers and HI for exemple). _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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TexasRebel
Frondeur
Inscrit le: 07 Avr 2017 Messages: 1
Localisation: Texas
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Posté le: Mer Avr 19, 2017 3:12 am Sujet du message: Stakes |
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Provided you have the necessary CPs:
1) Can you double move, then place stakes?
2) Can you move within 4 UD of the enemy, then place stakes?
3) Can you remove stakes, then move if starting within 4 UD of the enemy?
If deploying stakes indeed counts as a 'move' then 2 and 3 above should not be allowed, but then the use of stakes would only be very defensive, as in response to a directly threatening enemy or perhaps premature to a desired aggressive placement. For example, moving to within bow range of knights then planting stakes in their Frenchy faces.
If I recall correctly, that would be a legal move in FoG Ancients? |
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daveallen
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Inscrit le: 28 Jan 2016 Messages: 758
Localisation: Rugby & CLWC
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Posté le: Mer Avr 19, 2017 4:44 am Sujet du message: |
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fdunadan a écrit: | Deploying stakes count as a move:
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may be used on a group and even if some units in the group doesn't have stakes ( Bowers and HI for exemple). |
I'm not sure about this one.
Are you saying that in a group of
Bw HI Bw
the two Bw can use a group move to place stakes for a single PIP?
Dave _________________ Putting the ink into incompetence |
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daveallen
Tribun

Inscrit le: 28 Jan 2016 Messages: 758
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Posté le: Mer Avr 19, 2017 4:57 am Sujet du message: Re: Stakes |
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TexasRebel a écrit: | Provided you have the necessary CPs:
1) Can you double move, then place stakes?
2) Can you move within 4 UD of the enemy, then place stakes?
3) Can you remove stakes, then move if starting within 4 UD of the enemy |
1) Yes, but only if their commander is with the group/unit.
2) No. Because they are separate moves and a second move is not allowed within 4UD.
3) No. See 2).
Stakes give Bowmen a reasonable chance of surviving against mounted in the open, but they don't allow you to treat them like tanks.
Dave _________________ Putting the ink into incompetence |
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plefebvre
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 30 Déc 2009 Messages: 1183
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Posté le: Jeu Avr 20, 2017 8:39 pm Sujet du message: |
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Daveallen gave the correct answers.
ADLG Technical Board _________________ patrick lefebvre
"sic transit gloria mundi" |
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fdunadan
Tribun
Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 984
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Posté le: Jeu Avr 20, 2017 9:38 pm Sujet du message: |
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[quote="daveallen"] fdunadan a écrit: | Deploying stakes count as a move:
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may be used on a group and even if some units in the group doesn't have stakes ( Bowers and HI for exemple). |
I'm not sure about this one.
Are you saying that in a group of
Bw HI Bw
the two Bw can use a group move to place stakes for a single PIP?
Dave[/quot
In fact, the 3 units as a group are given an orderthat allow the Bw to place stakes. The HI in the middle does nothing, but stay where he is. _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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Zoltan
Légat
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Posté le: Dim Juil 02, 2017 4:07 am Sujet du message: |
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Can I please double check this.
Take a group of 4 longbow units side by side in a group. Does it take just one pip to deploy/uplift stakes covering the whole group frontage? |
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fdunadan
Tribun
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Posté le: Dim Juil 02, 2017 5:58 am Sujet du message: |
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Yes  _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Lun Juil 10, 2017 3:57 am Sujet du message: |
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fdunadan a écrit: | Are you saying that in a group of
Bw HI Bw
the two Bw can use a group move to place stakes for a single PIP?
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It has been suggested to me that this is not a group move as the HI cannot comply. |
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