Art De La Guerre

Nostrebor · Archer Inscrit le: 20 D�c 2014 Messages: 62

As I read the rules a charge is required to contact an enemy unit in the front, flank or rear if the enemy unit is not contacted to the front.

Is the following true?

If the enemy unit is contacted on its front by a friendly unit then a unit moving to contact the enemy to the flank or rear with its front is not doing charge move. This would mean that it could wheel, slide or turn in the middle of the move not just the beginning (which is the only place you can do these things in a charge move).

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669

p 50 left side
under "charge"
last sentence.
Paraphrased, a move to contact to give support is not a charge.

Nostrebor · Archer Inscrit le: 20 D�c 2014 Messages: 62

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669

Go to
http://www.artdelaguerre.fr/en/regles.php
click on
Flank attack on flanking unit

Is that what you are asking?

plefebvre · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 30 D�c 2009 Messages: 1183

Nostrebor · Archer Inscrit le: 20 D�c 2014 Messages: 62

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669

Ah.

Good question. I think during a game the answer has always just to been to assume its a fresh charge. This assumes the unit moved via a charge into this position. But now that you mention it...hmmm.

So if it moved via a move then no it would not get those charge abilities.

But should it, in either case? Let me go dig through the rules.

Ramses II · Post� le: Mer Sep 13, 2017 1:31 am Sujet du message:

Here the timing of the moves by A and B is critical.

The answer to the question as stated would be 'No', B does not get charge bonuses because at the time it moves it is moving into support.

By definition this is the continuation of a melee from a previous turn.
If B moves first, it is supporting A by contacting the flank of X causing an immediate disruption loss on X. When A disengages, X fights at -1, B fights using its normal factors +1 for being on the flank.

If A were to disengage first before B arrived, the B would then be counted as charging but X would not suffer the disruption loss for being simultaneously in contact with the front edge of two enemy units, though it would be fighting at a base factor of '0' (losing Impact etc).