Art De La Guerre

[didrobert]

Dans les exceptions à la charge incontrôlée ( p. 46 ) il y a : " si à la suite de sa charge l'unité peut se trouver dans un terrain qui la pénalise au combat " . Un des exemples les plus simples , une unité de MI impétueux face à un bois occupé par d'autres MI et à portée de charge , le MI impétueux ne l'est plus car s'il entre dans le bois il combat à -1 .
Mais un MI impétueux situé dans une ravine avec un fantassin lourd ou moyen à portée de charge et à l'extérieur au bord de la ravine . Si l'impétueux charge une fois arrivé au contact son adversaire aura +1 , est ce une exception à la charge incontrôlée ?
Par avance merci chers collègues de hobby
did

[Quiky]

De mon point de vue il est impétueux dans cette situation car il n'est pas pénalisé, c'est l'autre qui est avantagé.

[didrobert]

C'est pas faux ! merci Kévin

[Mark G Fry]

In the situation where you have 1 MF in a wood and another MF outside the wood, so that were both to fight inside the wood they would both be disadvantaged by -1 each, then I am not sure that the MF charging in is at a disadvantage But according to the way the rules are written, I can see that the MF charging in will be disadvantaged even though it is not fighting 'at a disadvantage'.

Likewise, a LF javelin, up hill, on a Gentle hill with a Plantation on it, will force a MF impetuous to charge it, as the MF is not disadvantaged by the Plantation, and it is the LF that gains the advantage by being uphill. But if it was a Wood rather than a Plantation covering the hill, then the MF would not have to charge, as it would be disadvantaged in the melee by the Wood.

Or similarly (in reverse) - a MF impetuous on a Gentle hill covered with Brush, with an enemy HF Spear unit within charge range in the Open, is forced to charge.
The fact that the target HF Spear is in the Open and so a combat would disadvantage the MF impetuous (as opposed to them both fighting on the hill, where the HF would be disadvantaged), is not terrain that causes the MF to be disadvantaged, even though its no longer potentially fighting at an advantage. If that makes sense.

In the example, if the MF impetuous ends up with any part of its base still in the Ravine/Gully once it is (potentially) in contact with the HF, it doesn't need to charge as it is still (technically) disadvantaged by the terrain.

Just my humble thoughts.
Cheers
Mark
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[lionelrus]

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[didrobert]

C'est noté Lionel , thanks a lot