Art De La Guerre

[Muntaner]

Two-handed weapons provides the following benefits:
A) +1 to the die roll if you win

B) +1 to the die roll if you tie vs spearmen/pikemen

Furthermore, the rules say "In game terms the additional protection of armour and the extra force of two handed weapons offset each other."

Does armor offset both A and B above? Or just A?

[Muntaner]

Bumping this one to see if I can get a reply.

Our group thinks we have an answer, found in the word "offset."

Heavy armor and Two Handed weapons do not cancel each other, they offset. Meaning that the 2HW gives the +1 when you win and the armor promptly lowers the result by 1.

So in the case of 2HW vs Spear w/armor the procedure would be as follows:

1) Players roll dice, getting a tie.
2) The 2HW provides +1, winning the combat (for the moment)
3) The armor lowers the roll by 1, making the combat a tie again.

Is this procedure correct? If so, then armored spear are fairly durable vs 2HW.

[Soranon]

So a HI unit with two handed weapon fight a heavy lancer.

The two units have +1 against each other for this fight.

Players draw the dices and the result is a tie (3/3 for exemple)

1) HI with 2 handed weapon gain +1 because of a tie against spearmen/piklemen
2) 2 handed weapon cancel armor.

So the heavy lancer loose the fight by 1 and lose one loss.

[Muntaner]

[Hazelbark]

Looking at page 16.

And reading the examples. Then reading the sentence above the examples, "IN game terms..."

I think the references would better be written, "practically speaking"

So HW gives a +1, but if the opponent has better armor then it receives a +1. So practically it is negated/cancelled. Technically it is not. But practically it is a wash.

[Soranon]

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[Hazelbark]

[sebastosfig]

[danikine74]

i think that armor and 2hw neutralices each other, it means that 2HW doesnt get the +1 to get the win and the armor doesnt count for the spears

[Hazelbark]

El Kreator answered this in the FAQ thread.