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Garry Grant
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A point of clarification please.
Rules p43 state non-impetuous heavy/medium swordsmen can pass through friendly bowmen/crossbowmen. The QRS refers to heavy/medium infantry.
In cases like this I assume the Rule Book has priority? |
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Commodore
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| Posté le: Mar Mar 14, 2017 6:26 am Sujet du message: |
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It is non impetuous heavy and medium swordsmen (and khnights on foot)
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Garry Grant
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| Posté le: Mar Mar 14, 2017 9:38 am Sujet du message: |
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Quite so - but this is not exactly what is in the QRS which is therefore a little misleading.
I rely on the QRS during a game and would prefer not to have to double check the Rule Book - after a few more games I hope that this will not be necessary.
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lionelrus
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QRS is...QRS, so you cant't put a rulebook in only 2 pages.
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lionelrus
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and don't forget swordmen can interpenetrate bows, but bows can't interpenetrate swordmen.
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Garry Grant
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Thanks
Agree QRS quick reminder only but surprised Rules say Swordsmen and QRS Infantrymen.
Handy reminder about bowmen being unable to interpenetrate. |
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daveallen
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Agree QRS quick reminder only but surprised Rules say Swordsmen and QRS Infantrymen.
Handy reminder about bowmen being unable to interpenetrate. |
This is a translation error.
In the French rules there are no Swordsmen, only Infantry.
The error will need to be noted in the FAQ and changed in the next edition.
Dave
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madaxeman
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| daveallen a écrit: | | Garry Grant a écrit: | Thanks
Agree QRS quick reminder only but surprised Rules say Swordsmen and QRS Infantrymen.
Handy reminder about bowmen being unable to interpenetrate. |
This is a translation error.
In the French rules there are no Swordsmen, only Infantry.
The error will need to be noted in the FAQ and changed in the next edition.
Dave |
I think (dangerous I know...) you might mean this the other way round.
In French ADG there are;
Infantry ('Lantassin')
Pikes (erm, 'Pike'?)
Spears ('Lanciers')
This didn't really work in English as "Infantry" is a term that would be read by English-speakers as including Pike and Spearmen (and LF, and Bw...), hence the English translation uses "Swordsmen" instead of the more literal translation of "infantry".
So, it's a (literal) translation error on the QRS that needs correcting.
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Commodore
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| madaxeman a écrit: | | daveallen a écrit: | | Garry Grant a écrit: | Thanks
Agree QRS quick reminder only but surprised Rules say Swordsmen and QRS Infantrymen.
Handy reminder about bowmen being unable to interpenetrate. |
This is a translation error.
In the French rules there are no Swordsmen, only Infantry.
The error will need to be noted in the FAQ and changed in the next edition.
Dave |
I think (dangerous I know...) you might mean this the other way round.
In French ADG there are;
Infantry ('Lantassin')
Pikes (erm, 'Pike'?)
Spears ('Lanciers')
This didn't really work in English as "Infantry" is a term that would be read by English-speakers as including Pike and Spearmen (and LF, and Bw...), hence the English translation uses "Swordsmen" instead of the more literal translation of "infantry".
So, it's a (literal) translation error on the QRS that needs correcting. |
Some translations:
Fantassins lourds = heavy swordsmen
Fantassins moyens = medium swordsmen
Chevaliers a pieds = knights on foot
Chevaliers demontes = dismounted knights
lanciers lourds = heavy spearmen
lanciers moyens = medium spearmen
phalange = pikemen
javeliniers = javelinmen
archers = bowmen
arbaletriers = crossbowmen
infanterie legere = light infantry
levees = levy
chariots de guerre = war wagons
chars lourds = heavy chariot
chars legers = light chariots
cavalerie legere = light cavalry
cavalerie moyenne = medium cavalry
cavalerie lourde = heavy cavalry
Cataphractes = cataphacts
elephant =.... elephant
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